MEO RP/Tales of Lore

[Shelob]

In case you are waiting for a post from some other people, I don't have much to add at this moment, so feel free to post a new one to which I may find more reason to reply.

Sincerely yours (and slightly wasted)
Menelvagor.

[Eonwë]

Here's a little something for discussion. How fortified should we expect the Dale/Erebor region to be?

Quotes from the books would be great if possible.

Take care.
Eonwë

[arathorn]

I just read ArPhar's post about Dale.. really liked it! Chuckled at the 'boomaggers' reference.. think Haran will have to wander into the smithy and see about some 'bommeraxes'! =D

[Eonwë]

A dagger that flies back at you is of questionable safety. An axe that flies back at you is an accident waiting to happen :}

[Varda]

Great post, Finduilas, and welcome to the rp! That was exactly what we needed.

[Eonwë]

A few notes on my new post:

Since in chats we'd determined we should come back through Mirkwood, I had to find a good reason for Auros to make such a decision. His standing thoughts had been either to head due south to come upon (and follow West) the East-West Road, or to catch up to the other Noldor following the Ered Mithrin west. To rule these out, I chose to take cues from the battle in Mirkwood to hint at troubles Northward, dangerous enough for Auros to wish for greater speed in returning to Rivendell to deliver this information.

Also, the emphasis on "Lady" in Dain's dialog is to signify he deemed to continue the courtesy already afforded Fainan.

[Finduilas - V]

Very good, Lord Auros, but since frali wants to come with you Elves we need a thrifty reason for that , especially of such a nature that Auros and the others would accept him as new companion straight away. The idea that sprang to my mind this morning while working (besides pondering whether Sauron would have a son and what he would be like and how he would develop and such small matters was ... a dwarven traitor that got away with the Arkenjewel. Stolen fromThorins Grave ...

If this was discovered by the servant who tends to the grave .., and reports it to Frali who then of course would report it to King Dain. ..

What do ye guys think ?

[Varda]

If you use the Arkenstone, it needs to tie into the overall story. This can be done:

The Arkenstone, Dain and Frali have reason to believe, has been stolen for the use of the evil power arising in the ruins of Angmar, that is in league with or an expansion from, Dol Guldur. As a giant stone, it may be imbued with immense power for good or evil. The silmarils contained the light of the Two Trees, but perhaps the Witch-king found a way to contain Unlight or Fear if the jewel is powerful enough.

Now, why is a young dwarf being sent after it instead of a seasoned party of warrior dwarves?

Perhaps Frali has an inadvertant connection to the stone and can feel direction when at a certain distance, and sense its existence at all times. This occurred during the theft when Frali accidentally came across the theft at the time when the wraith received it from the traitor, and was putting a bit of magic into it to claim it and start the process of its becoming a tool, that will be concluded within the ruins. As Frali was the nearest dwarf, having been looking around after hearing the grave-digger's report and following the traitor, the dwarfstone resonated with Frali.

Also, a young dwarf can get along better with the elves than an older one. Frali can then travel with the elf party that is going the same way you are, able to travel easily through Mirkwood, and less obvious that they are helping the dwarves.

[Finduilas - V]

Very good, Varda I like the idea, and remembering how the stone first took posession of Thorin's heart before the battle of five armies it would make absolutely sense for a) having either already some unwholesome power or b) the sort of jewel that could be easily turned into an object of power. A family connection via a sideline of Gror, the uncle of Thorin, a younger son maybe - obviously not the eldest who was heir to the Dwarven throne - (frali would be his son, which would make him a nephew of Thorin and one of second degree, I think, to King Dain). Does that make sense?

Would the question remain when the theft occurred and when the stone is given to the Ringwraith. As the party is about to leave, maybe the jewel is given to the wraith just as the Elves leave the throne room ... Any thoughts about that?

[Eonwë]

I think the Arkenstone is a bit prominent of an item to get involved with here.

Barring that, we have this to consider:
1.) The Arkenstone was buried with Thorin,... "deep beneath the Mountain."
2.) The Arkenstone was "the Heart of the Mountain."

Both of these are ample reason to believe the Arkenstone was well guarded. Anyone who wanted to steal it would first have to get past the guards at the gate, which means he'd have to be in good with Dwarves. Anyone who made it in deep enough to see Thorin's grave would have to be really in good with the Dwarves, which means they would've known whether he was that trustworthy or not Considering all that, anyone who could steal it (having fooled the secretive Dwarves for many years in order to gain such a level of trust)would warrant a group of seasoned Thiefcatchers, not a young Dwarf just beginning duties.

I don't think it's a matter of the Arkenstone possessing Thorin, but the lust of treasure that all Dwarves suffer from if they're not careful. Furthermore, a Dwarf who stole it would not be taking it to someone else.

[Eonwë]

Finduilas, how about a delivery quest? I'm sure there's some sort of correspondence Dain would prefer a Dwarf to deliver to Gloin in Rivendell, and sending the messenger with an armed group already heading that way would be a minimal expenditure of his own forces. That would at least give reason for a trip that far.

[Finduilas - V]

Good thought, Eonwe Let me think about it at work, it is usual very productive ;D

[Eonwë]

Pardon my not getting a post added sooner. I'd planned to have Dain mention bringing Frali with the group after Finduilas got back from vacation, and then she went and beat me to it :} So I had to rethink my next post, and then classes got in the way, and well, here's my post :} Enjoy :}

Eonwë

[Eonwë]

I've waited to give everyone time to make posts into the Erebor chapter. We seem to be at an end to our stay there, and in the others our departure from a place has been in the next chapter. So, should we start a new chapter?

[ArPharazon]

I took quite a bit of liberty in my latest post, largest and most important post in the Calaron-storyline, making assumptions about how Orcs would attack, and giving some more information about the shadow from the north. If anyone has an issue with the information I gave, let me know here and I'll make necessary adjustments.

This also marks the end of my business of the stay at Erebor, so I'm fine with a new chapter.