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Post by Maglor on Jan 25, 2004 20:47:33 GMT -5
I didn't think that answer would suffice, but I guess I was the only one that answered anyway.
My question might be super hard to some, and super easy to others. Here goes...
What song (be as specific as possible) was "the song most fair that ever in words was woven, and the song most sorrowful that ever the world shall hear"?
If you are totally stuck there is somewhat of a hint hidden below this line.
There was a song about it on Blind Guardian's CD "Nightfall in Middle-Earth"
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Post by Shelob on Jan 26, 2004 6:49:52 GMT -5
I'd think that one quite easy  unless, of course, I royally miss again Anyways, I'd say it's the "lay of Luthien and Beren" why? simple. 1) most beautiful ---> Luthien 2) most sorrow ---> Luthien passing from the world. |
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Post by Maglor on Jan 26, 2004 8:59:58 GMT -5
Sound reasoning, but be even more specific . |
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Post by Elrond 2001-2005 on Jan 26, 2004 17:43:23 GMT -5
Well I really was going to take Turgon's as it was more specific...but I guess you already started so, I would guess the song to be the song that is always playing, I guess you'd call it the song of life...I don't think it had a name just the song that Iluvatar taught to the valar at the beginning and keeps unfolding until the end of time where it will be resung without melkor's marring.
My reasoning,
Song created the world and is still going, therefore it shall ever be heard, and life is both fair and sorrowful at times...it also includes the tale of beren and ltuhien in it's histories so yeah...maybe?
Cheers
Elrond
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Post by Shelob on Jan 27, 2004 5:43:49 GMT -5
Nice try Elrond, but I don't think that was what was meant by the question. Most songs and ancient tales are sung by the elves, and they give names and such to them. So I'm going to stick with the lay of Luthien and Beren. being somewhat more specific: beauty: Luthien (doh  the first love between man and elf-maiden their love in itself their heroism their faith in each other they being able to grab a Sil the frienship they acquired from Huan their son, who would be the grandfather of Earendil sorrow: Luthien's passing Luthien's passing for the 2nd time the loss of Finrod in Tol-in-Gaurhoth Beren losing his hand to Charcharoth Beren's own tale of his life with the exiled, amongst whom was Barahir, his father Luthien's and Beren's sorrow for the loss of their son and father (in law) at the hands of the dwarves Really, need any more?  |
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Post by Maglor on Jan 27, 2004 10:14:47 GMT -5
Hehe, I'm gonna give it to you Turgon , you were right, just not as specific as I originally intended the question to be...  The Sil says Luthien's song before Mandos "was the song most fair that ever in words was woven, and the song most sorrowful that ever the world shall hear." Thats what I meant by more specific ;D. |
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Post by Shelob on Jan 27, 2004 10:41:16 GMT -5
Once again, one of my famous many-in-one-questions Here goes, read well, it isn't hard, but it goes to the first who has all answers correct. In which battle did the father of dragons come forth for the first time, what was its / his name, who nearly mortally wounded it so it retreated from the battle, which race did he belong to, what did that race wear into battle and finally, what happened when this person was slain by the dragon as he stabbed? Have fun |
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Post by Galdor-2003-2007 on Jan 27, 2004 10:58:12 GMT -5
I know the ansewr to part of the question, however since I cannnot answer in full, I shall pass on it!
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Post by Elrond 2001-2005 on Jan 27, 2004 17:57:49 GMT -5
Boy am I glad lately that I just re-read the sil...Ok first, Dagor Bragollach (Although technically that's untrue as Glaurung revealed himself earlier when he was yet young and was driven off by Fingon and mounted archers although it was not a battle) Glaurung, The King of Belegost Azaghal! stabbed him in the fifth battle, he was of the race of dwarves, the dwarves of belegost wore great and hideous battle masks, and finally when he was slain his people picked him up and carried him from the battle slowly while they sang a death march. I think that answers all of them...I hope...cheers
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Post by Shelob on Jan 27, 2004 19:20:03 GMT -5
All good with one exception What happened to the Dwarves when they carried Azaghal off the Battlefield? |
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Post by arathorn on Jan 28, 2004 0:53:44 GMT -5
Elrond seemed to get everything... er.. all else I can think you want is that they heeded no foe after that (fought no more) and no one dared to stay them (no one dared fight them)? Nothing happened to them basically... they went home carrying their fallen hero.  |
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Post by Shelob on Jan 28, 2004 3:43:11 GMT -5
Correct Arathorn, that was the answer I was looking for However, because Elrond's answer is sufficient enough, I will give the next question to him. (Sorry Arathorn, was just asking about a specific.) |
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Post by arathorn on Jan 28, 2004 5:21:19 GMT -5
He certainly deserves it |
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Post by Elrond 2001-2005 on Jan 29, 2004 23:42:05 GMT -5
Thanks um ok...he...he...he hard for some, ridiculously hard for others...Which mortal man is it sung by the elves is counted among the eldar, and who;s fate is sundered from that of other men? have fun |
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Post by arathorn on Jan 30, 2004 1:23:54 GMT -5
Earendil?
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unless, of course, I royally miss again 
