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Post by glorfindel on Jul 23, 2007 22:14:17 GMT -5
Sorry about that.. But I appreciate the help Arveleg!
Elrond and Elros hold a very diverse bloodline. List all the races of which they are apart in blood (for Elvish please be specific) as well as the names of their forefathers/mothers from whom each particular bloodline comes to them. Please be sure to indicate exactly how each person is connected to Elrond/Elros as opposed to just listing their names. good luck
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Post by ArPharazon on Jul 28, 2007 8:57:01 GMT -5
Maiar: Melian, mother of Luthien, mother of Dior, father of Elwing, mother of Elrond and Elros.
Elven:
Vanyar: Indis, mother of Fingolfin, father of Turgon, father of Idril, mother of Earendil, father of Elrond and Elros.
Noldor: Finwe, father of Fingolfin, father of Turgon, father of Idril, mother of Earendil, father of Elrond and Elros.
Sindar: Thingol, father of Luthien, mother of Dior, father of Elwing, mother of Elrond and Elros.
Men:
House of Hador: Galdor, father of Huor, father of Tuor, father of Earendil, father of Elrond and Elros.
House of Beor:
1: Rian, mother of Tuor, father of Earendil, father of Elrond and Elros.
2: Beren, father of Dior, father of Elwing, mother of Elrond and Elros.
House of Haleth: Hareth, mother of Huor, father of Tuor, father of Earendil, father of Elrond and Elros.
Did I miss any?
Sidenote: Arwen, daughter of Elrond had also blood of the Teleri from Valinor, through Earwen, Galadriel, and Celebrian, thus combining all strands of Elven and Human nobility for the first time, if you seperate Teleri and Sindar.
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Post by glorfindel on Jul 29, 2007 14:36:01 GMT -5
Bravo! Question answered 110%
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Post by ArPharazon on Jul 31, 2007 8:34:06 GMT -5
A simpler one this time: Name 7 of Barahir's 12 companions with whom he wandered and hid from Morgoth's forces after the Dagor Bragollach. You get extra credit if you name more than 7, but 7 is enough for the next question  |
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Post by Ancalagon on Aug 18, 2007 11:50:31 GMT -5
Well, at the risk of my posting another riddle, everyone seems to have left this question up to me to answer. Here is what I have:
With Barahir there went:
1. Gorlim
2.Radhruin
3. Dagnir
4. Arthad
5. Gildor
6. Belegund
7. Beren (can't forget him)
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Post by ArPharazon on Aug 19, 2007 8:51:22 GMT -5
Correct. Post your riddle then!
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Post by Ancalagon on Aug 26, 2007 16:37:37 GMT -5
Hey all! Sorry it took me so long to get this up, but it took a lot more thinking than my others. This one could be very hard or very easy, good luck!
Five I am numbered
In name but not in truth
All the parts of me belong to me
But all of them alone are not my whole
My First is the crescent moon
Waning in the darkling sky
My Second is an individual
Though a friend rides upon his shoulders
My Third does roll in the mouth
But never is it eaten or drunk
My Fourth and Fifth lie together
And together inside do they lie
Who/what am I?
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Post by Varda on Aug 27, 2007 22:52:05 GMT -5
Silmaril
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Post by Ancalagon on Aug 28, 2007 8:51:46 GMT -5
Nope, it is not a Silmaril. Sorry  |
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Post by Eonwë on Aug 28, 2007 23:08:20 GMT -5
Hmm, this is quite the riddle. Five that is not five, parts that do not make the whole.
For my first attempt, I will guess the "Sons" of Finarfin, though I would assume Tolkien would've rather referred to the "Children" of Finarfin, since there are four sons, and one daughter, and English doesn't typically use the masculine form for a group when a neutral form exists.
The second part, at least in sticking with the concept of my answer, appears to refer to Finrod saving Maedhros from Thangorodrim.
The third, if taken literally, seems to indicate a tongue. If taken more poetically, perhaps it refers to a name that flows well when said, and I would guess this is a reference to Galadriel.
If I recall correctly, both Angrod and Aegnor died together, so they would be the fourth and fifth.
That leaves Orodreth as the first.
I have other thoughts, but I'll see about this one first.
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Post by Ancalagon on Aug 29, 2007 7:38:17 GMT -5
Nope it is not the children of Finarfin. Your answer was very well reasoned out though, it actually comes close to fitting. I can clearly see your reasoning for the 2-5 parts, sometimes a bit strectched they seem to one who knows the answer, but Orodreth simply being the only one left for the 1st part lets the rest down. All pieces have to fit their lines And Orodreth was the master of Minas Tirith, the tower of the setting sun, nothin bout a moon. All in all, a good guess, but not correct. Sorry |
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Post by Arveleg I Jun2007 - Sep2015 on Aug 29, 2007 16:15:43 GMT -5
Without looking, I cannot name some of the stars of the constellations of Varda, but it is the best guess I could throw out.
I know it could possibly have something to do with the celestial bodies, in an attempt to draw nearer to the answer. With reference to Earendil, the moon, ect.
My answer, though, would be the Valacircia.
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Post by Ancalagon on Aug 29, 2007 17:52:41 GMT -5
Nope it is not the Valacirca.
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Post by Eonwë on Aug 31, 2007 1:27:58 GMT -5
Actually, Arveleg's post inspired me to go another direction from my next attempt, and in that vein, I'm going to guess Menelvagor/Menelmacar.
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Post by Ancalagon on Aug 31, 2007 8:36:18 GMT -5
It is not Menelvagor/Menelmacar.
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