Elatan
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Post by Elatan on Dec 14, 2003 16:47:10 GMT -5
One of the other topics needed to discuss is what guildname we can use. If we cant use Tolkien names it may not be we can use Valar either. In that case what name then ? Does anyone know if guildnames are restricted ? Anyway lets see what we can come up with. 1. Valar or Valarguild / Valar guild 2. TheValar or The Valar 3. Ainur or TheAinur / The Ainur Any of those would be my first choice since they reflect ( or are ) what we are and call ourselves now. Of others we probably could dig up hundreds and here is a few. 4. Defenders of Eru 5. Defenders of Arda 6. Will of Illuvathar 7. Your best shot ;D
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Eonwë
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Post by Eonwë on Dec 14, 2003 23:41:04 GMT -5
Ooh, I shudder to think we'd have to use a name different from the one we use now, but I suppose it is a real concern.
Names I have seen are as follows: Firebeards of Nogrod Keepers of Middle-Earth Knights of Tharbad Liquid Evil Rangers of Thintaur Safe Havens of Arda
And so on..
I really don't think from this perspective "The Valar Guild" would be (much of ) a problem, although "The Valar" might. If it becomes absolutely necessary though, I recommend ways with minimal change to reflecting who we are: Gwaith-i-Valar or Valinorë. Both refer to "the people of the Valar" and thus we lose little if any connection that we are part of the Valar Guild.
There are other aspects of this that I will make a separate post for, in an effort to make myself be on-topic :}
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Post by Eonwë on Dec 15, 2003 2:12:28 GMT -5
Thought I should also note there is a group calling themselves "The Valarian Angels" (they also say "Angles" on their web site, but since the header and the MEO board say Angels that is probably the right one). From what I've seen not much if at all like us except the word "Valar" :}
Thinking, the above suggestions may get us confused with this other group, and thus I think we should go with "The Valar Guild." Just flat out who we are :}
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Varda
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Post by Varda on Dec 16, 2003 14:53:38 GMT -5
Valar Guild is currently not taken. I think we should grab it! If they weren't upset by a name like Valarian Angels, they won't mind ours.
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Eonwë
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Post by Eonwë on Dec 17, 2003 2:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by Elatan on Dec 17, 2003 7:25:34 GMT -5
I am all for grabbing Valar guild while we can. If Varda has registered I would think you should take it since you are our all great guild-mother If it should be needed I can set up a frontpage for a MeO guild branch linking to this forum and the mainpage + all the other pages we have.
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Post by Varda on Dec 25, 2003 15:35:54 GMT -5
Elatan, thanks for offering to do the front page for MEO! You are a real artist at such things and would be terrific. I like to do tons of content and would rather leave the beauty of the world entry to your greater expertise.
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Post by Elatan on Dec 26, 2003 9:08:17 GMT -5
In that case I will start working on it. Varda have you registeret at the MeO forums ? and if so what is your name there ?
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Post by Varda on Dec 26, 2003 12:49:43 GMT -5
I started to then backed off, unsure which name to use. The suggestion of an obscure Varda name seemed good, of which I have so many! I will probably be stuck with it for years, and will have to watch out for how the short form sounds. Suggestions welcome. I have also been working out how to tell about our guild, reading the posts here, listening to emails and live chats on Bnet and AIM.
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Post by Elatan on Dec 26, 2003 16:54:18 GMT -5
I have started on some frontpage but would like critics, idears, good or bad whatever you may have. The address is the old clik.to/DaoCValar I will have to get it changed later. I asked if you had registered due to grabbing our name but since you havent I guess you cant yet
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Eonwë
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Post by Eonwë on Dec 27, 2003 3:20:34 GMT -5
At the bottom you have "The Valar greets you my friend."
If you mean "The Valar" as in the Guild, I personally would prefer if it said "The Valar Guild." if however you refer to "persons" such as Manwë, Varda, Ulmo etc, then "greets" should be "greet." Might be picky to some, but some things hit me a certain way, and if it's really bad I actually shudder :} ( didn't shudder so not quite that bad, hehe :})
Everything else looks like a nice start.
Take care :} Eonwë
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Post by arathorn on Dec 27, 2003 15:42:29 GMT -5
I like the border, but I think the middle part with the text can be jazzed up a bit. What I'm really concerned about is that since the menu is a picture when you shrink the window you lose menu options. Might be better to make the menu vertical instead of horizontal, but the problem there is you'd lose the guilded effect of the borders not to mention make the text space considerably smaller. Hmmmm...
There are other ways you could go. Could make the menu option actual text that WOULD wrap and have a rollover of each option bring up a pic of only that option (using sectioning as you did with the pic options). But again, then the menu would look odd scrolling onto two lines...
In any case, the menu should be viewable at all times (a much as can be expected) else people may miss an option. If you could send me the actual code for the frames, we could play around with it and see what you think might work best. My 2 cents...
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Post by Elatan on Dec 27, 2003 17:37:32 GMT -5
I have corrected the text as Eonwe and Varda suggested but not uploaded yet since still working on pictures. I realise the problem Arathorn mention but went fast over it ;D since hardly anyone are using screensize lesser than 1024 x 764 but but .. My first thought were to create the 2 trees as link positions. Touch the silvertree for MeO links and the golden for guildlinks. When you hit the tree they should fold out flowers with links. But I cant make it, my program is a darn old one and though I have programs for making it I have never tried making anything in flash and all that "new" stuff. Arathorn, I have seen you have a webpage for these things. Is it possible to make such a tree ? I can make the images which is not a problem but I have no idear about how to set it up.
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Post by arathorn on Dec 27, 2003 20:05:56 GMT -5
Actually, I've used/coded in Flash, and/or we can do what you want using Rollovers (I have Adobe "ImageReady" a companion software to Adobe PhotoShop) that allows you to cut certain areas of a pic and allow a click or 'rollover' of that portion spawn another pic or link etc. Check these out for examples of work I've done in Flash and ImageReady regarding roll-overs: Roll your mouse over and/or click the options on the right:www3.sympatico.ca/mikenowo/portfolio/flash/mikenowo-flash.htmlRoll your mouse cursor over each number 1-4 to see the ballon text:www3.sympatico.ca/mikenowo/portfolio/collage/niagara.html
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Post by Paladin on Dec 28, 2003 3:53:15 GMT -5
LOL, the second one is great, Octo-Mike attacks!
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